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Friday, June 20th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jun 19 2014, 11:33 PM (16,058 Views)
nananana7
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waterlilly
Jun 22 2014, 02:07 PM
So those times that Jordan was going to leave town, she was just going to abandon Eve's daughter?

Good point.
Hmmm.
Well then.
Either Jordan isn't Joan ....
... or ... They're the same person but the writers have holes in their plots.

I'm probably foolish for trying to make sense of things.
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Yoryla
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The truth is they probably *aren't* one and the same, but I just think it's very strange for the writers to come up with a "Joan" who is gorgeous and who obviously has a cat, when there is already a character like that in Jordan. They didn't need to desribe the cousin at all, and now that they have, it just makes it silly because people are now expecting to see who it is. Usually when such anvils are dropped, it's supposed to mean that we should be seeing that person.
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Will&Sonny


Yoryla
Jun 22 2014, 03:14 PM
The truth is they probably *aren't* one and the same, but I just think it's very strange for the writers to come up with a "Joan" who is gorgeous and who obviously has a cat, when there is already a character like that in Jordan. They didn't need to desribe the cousin at all, and now that they have, it just makes it silly because people are now expecting to see who it is. Usually when such anvils are dropped, it's supposed to mean that we should be seeing that person.
One slight correction -- we don't really know if Paige's cousin has a cat. Eve observed that Joan's apartment smelled like "kitty litter and cheese puffs", but Paige replied that neither of those things had been present in the apartment during the time she had been living there. So, if Paige has never seen a cat, nor has she seen kitty litter, the implication I got from that statement was that the combined smell of kitty litter and cheese puffs was a very old, very stale smell that had been left over from a previous owner -- which only served to disgust Eve more.

I don't know how Paige could have lived in that apartment for months without ever seeing the cat or noticing a litter box, if there is indeed a cat living in the apartment with her (unless we're headed toward some weird stuffed cat thing, a la Patty on Y&R a few years ago, but we heard Jordan's cat meow at one point, and we saw her preparing some food for it, too). So, if Paige is to be believed, her cousin doesn't actually have a cat. And if Jordan still has Arthur, that means Jordan can't be Paige's cousin -- she's just another Joan, and any similarities between the two are just red herrings. :shrug:
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nananana7
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Will&Sonny
Jun 22 2014, 04:43 PM
One slight correction -- we don't really know if Paige's cousin has a cat. Eve observed that Joan's apartment smelled like "kitty litter and cheese puffs", but Paige replied that neither of those things had been present in the apartment during the time she had been living there. So, if Paige has never seen a cat, nor has she seen kitty litter, the implication I got from that statement was that the combined smell of kitty litter and cheese puffs was a very old, very stale smell that had been left over from a previous owner -- which only served to disgust Eve more.

I don't know how Paige could have lived in that apartment for months without ever seeing the cat or noticing a litter box, if there is indeed a cat living in the apartment with her (unless we're headed toward some weird stuffed cat thing, a la Patty on Y&R a few years ago, but we heard Jordan's cat meow at one point, and we saw her preparing some food for it, too).

So, if Paige is to be believed, her cousin doesn't actually have a cat.

And if Jordan still has Arthur, that means Jordan can't be Paige's cousin -- she's just another Joan, and any similarities between the two are just red herrings. :shrug:

Thanks. I had missed the bit about the odor only *seeming* to be like cat litter.
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waterlilly
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nananana7
Jun 22 2014, 02:19 PM
waterlilly
Jun 22 2014, 02:07 PM
So those times that Jordan was going to leave town, she was just going to abandon Eve's daughter?

Good point.
Hmmm.
Well then.
Either Jordan isn't Joan ....
... or ... They're the same person but the writers have holes in their plots.

I'm probably foolish for trying to make sense of things.
Oh no nanana7, I was trying to make Sense too! I love sleuthing, but I do see that the writers overlook hoes in their stories ;)


(I meant holes, I know they don't overlook hoes. Ha ha)
Edited by waterlilly, Jun 22 2014, 05:18 PM.
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Honeybees
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waterlilly
Jun 22 2014, 05:07 PM
nananana7
Jun 22 2014, 02:19 PM
waterlilly
Jun 22 2014, 02:07 PM
So those times that Jordan was going to leave town, she was just going to abandon Eve's daughter?

Good point.
Hmmm.
Well then.
Either Jordan isn't Joan ....
... or ... They're the same person but the writers have holes in their plots.

I'm probably foolish for trying to make sense of things.
Oh no nanana7, I was trying to make Sense too! I love sleuthing, but I do see that the writers overlook hoes in their stories ;)


(I meant holes, I know they don't overlook hoes. Ha ha)
Well, Victor certainly doesn't overlook them, in fact he sees them where they don't exist. Is there any woman in Salem he doesn't think is a hoe?
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waterlilly
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Maggie? :shrug:
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BeeBee
Jun 22 2014, 12:27 AM
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Jun 21 2014, 04:13 PM
LastLicks
Jun 21 2014, 03:49 PM
nananana7
Jun 21 2014, 01:49 PM
In a recent episode, Paige met Ben in Salem, and Paige insisted that she recognized Ben from a restaurant in Florida. But he denied it, and laughingly said that he must have a doppelganger.. (but obviously he was lying).

We know that Ben and Jordan are siblings but have told nobody in Salem this, except Rafe.

We also know that Jordan has a zillion fake names/IDs.

Many months ago, Jordan was seen living alone with a cat named Alfred.

We just learned that
Paige's-dad's-cousin-that-Paige-has-been-living-with ...
is named "Joan" and has a cat (because there was odor from the cat's litterbox).

Eve was bothered by Joan's cat's litterbox odor.

Months ago, when Kate broke into Jordan's apartment, Kate's allergies were bothered by the cat hair ...

Question: When was the last time we saw Jordan's apartment? Has Rafe been there recently? Or does Jordan see Rafe only at Rafe's place?

Is there any possibility that Paige has been living with Jordan all this time?
I don't think so ...
but Jordan and "Joan" are the only two characters with cats.
Oh okay, so there's more to this. Good to know, thanks!
It shouldn't be the apartment Kate broke into. On the Feb. 7 episode, the apartment had a white door and was number 422. In yesterday's episode, the door is more of a mauve color, looks like it's number 46, and has an intercom/doorbell. The interior, just inside the front door, of the apartment Kate broke into was purple.

So unless Jordan moved since that prior episode or her apartment was completely redone in the last few months, it's not the same place.
This post is the reason I love this site.Where else can you find people who remember sheets from twenty years ago,a camel colored jacket from ten years ago,and the white door of Jordan's apartment along with apartment number although I do believe the name of Jordan's cat was Arthur.You all amaze me.
It wasn't anything amazing. I just googled for Kate breaks into Jordan's apartment, and it gave me the date of the episode from summaries. Then I pulled up the video of that date. It took 5 minutes to find.
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